In this podcast, Mark Burgess and Chander Dhall talk about DevOps - Banks, Brains, and Factories. In this podcast, the following questions are answered by Mark Burgess...

  • Most people agree that Devops is about cooperation, but you opened AllDayDevops by asking what is cooperation, and why do we need it?
  • What do you mean by economy of scale?
  • You say there are two aspects of systems: dynamics and semantics, and that these came undone during the great depression. Explain
  • What is promise theory, and how does this apply?
  • You mention that the monetary economy relies on borrowing (debt) and that banks play a role in trust.
  • We create wealth through work? Making things, mining things, refining things… doesn’t this mean we need to pay?
  • Controversially, you say that there is no absolute reason for us to repay debt - but that it is a trust-building behaviour… is this true?
  • Money is information. Now we have more sophisticated information systems. How does this change things?
  • You say that technology may eventually undo our society based on cooperation. Why?
  • How do we apply this to devops?


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Mark Burgess

Mark Burgess

Mark Burgess is a theoretician and practitioner in the area of information systems, whose work has focused largely on distributed information infrastructure. He is known particularly for his work on Configuration Management and Promise Theory. Mark Burgess was CTO, Founder and original author of CFEngine. He was senior lecturer and then professor of Network and System Administration at Oslo University College from 1994-2011. He was the first professor with this title.

Mark obtained a PhD in Theoretical Physics in Newcastle, for which he received the Runcorn Prize. His current research interests include the behaviour of computers as dynamic systems and applying ideas from physics to describe computer behaviour. Mark was the principal author of the popular configuration management software package CFEngine for 20 years, and was the founder, chairman and CTO of the Cfengine company. He has led theoretical and practical contributions to the theory of automation and policy based management, including the idea of Operator Convergence and Promise Theory. He is the author of numerous books and papers on Network and System Administration and has won several prizes for his work.

Chander Dhall

Chander Dhall

Chander Dhall is an awarded Microsoft MVP and world-renowned technology leader in architecting and implementing solutions. He's not only rescued software development teams, but also implemented successful projects under tight deadlines and difficult business constraints. His company has a proven track record of not just saving the client millions of dollars, but also providing an expedited delivery time. Chander's team of experts are internationally-acclaimed speakers in top technical conferences in the world.

As a Microsoft Azure Advisor, ASP.NET Insider, Web API Advisor, DocumentDB Advisor, and an MVP for Visual Studio and Development Technologies, Chander has insight into new releases on technologies used by millions of developers. His critical advice, impeccable vision, futuristic strategy backed with creating and establishing best practices in the industry are some of the reasons for his unparalleled success.

At the same time, he's a voracious and highly-respected speaker. Chander is known to elucidate critical and complex concepts while making them easy to understand. He's one man who can talk to anyone from a junior developer, a senior architect all the way to an executive and knows how to speak their language. He has utilized his amazing business sense having started a company with zero funding and turned it into a multi-million-dollar company in less than two years.

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